Getting Through It

A Podcast to Help You Understand What’s Going on

Every week, Dr. Jones sits down to share her insights and perspective on the chaotic world around us on her podcast, Getting Through It, co-hosted with community resilience expert John Bwarie. The duo were co-creators of The Great Shake-Out and worked to create sweeping policy changes in seismic safety in the City of Los Angeles and dozens of other communities across California. For Caltech in 2019, Dr. Jones and John developed and co-led the Center’s Science Activation workshop and training program. Getting Through It premiered in June 2020.

Now, in this weekly broadcast, Dr. Jones shares how the world works, why you might feel the way you do about a particular disaster, and how you can manage the chaos around you that is real life. The topics range from earthquakes to other disasters that affect people, as well as the history of science and big disasters, and how through understanding why, we are more able to manage it and be more successful at “getting through it.”

Clips are shared publicly each week, and full episodes and other experiences are offered to supporters of the Center who sign up through the Jones Center Patreon Page. Support this effort to get early access, past episodes, behind the scenes, live Q&A, and more.

Latest Episodes
(All episodes and the knowledge vault can be accessed for all supporters here.)

Episode 14 – Science in a Crisis: Better, not Perfect
September 11, 2020
This episode reveals why that latest scientific study may not be your answer in making you feel better during a crisis. As you seek to take control during a disaster, Dr. Jones shares how science is not always about the big picture; it’s about going into the weeds and really: isolating a single weed. We share the process of how science can help inform policy-makers in their efforts to address urgent issues in the natural environment, and that no scientific information keeps you perfectly safe, it just makes society safer than without it. Science makes life better, not perfect.

Episode 13 – Five Rare but Possible Disasters That Science Tells Us Can Happen
September 4, 2020
An Earthquake in New York City? Hurricanes in LA? More than a month of straight rain across California? This episode explores 5 rare but possible natural hazards that are not well-known that could lead to catastrophic consequences. Dr. Jones explains the science behind each event and reveals when they last happened and how often they occur.

Episode 12 – Our Biggest Killer: Extreme Heat
August 28, 2020
Few people are afraid of hot weather, but in the US, on average it kills more people per year than most other geologic or atmospheric events. And, more extreme heat days are coming. In this episode, we look at extreme heat and what it means for us now and in the near future as we try to keep calm and cool.

Episode 11 – Raging Wildfires
August 21, 2020
As humans move deeper and deeper into the wildlands as part of sprawling cities, and with a rapidly warming earth, wild fires are more intense and more destructive than ever before. In this episode, we explore wildfires, their causes, the way we view them, and what can be done to protect ourselves from their impacts. You’ll also learn about “dragon twists” and how devastating a single palm tree can be.

Episode 10 – Pandemic Frustration: How Cognitive Dissonance, Tribalism, Individualism and Social Norms Norms Change the Way We Hear Public Safety Messages
August 14, 2020
In this episode, we explore the frustration felt when other people take actions during the pandemic that put other people at risk. We look at the research as to why this happens and how others can work to communicate most effectively with them. As a community, we must work together to address this long disaster for the months ahead because, as Dr. Jones says, “We’re all in this together.”

Episode 9 – Debunking the Biggest Earthquake Myths
August 7, 2020
In this episode, we’re diving deep into the pool of misconceptions, myths, and legends that seek to explain what makes earthquakes so scary to humans. From the earliest records kept, humans have sought to explain “why” in order to help us feel better about the fact that we don’t know when earthquakes will strike. We take a look at time of day, weather, animals, and more to help you get through it when the earth starts to move…

Episode 8 – The Disaster “Blame Game”
July 31, 2020
In a disaster, systems fail where they are already weak or strained (think of brittle pipes, weak buildings, or overwhelmed levies). Like our physical systems, our social systems function in the same way. In this episode, Dr. Jones explores how society finds scapegoats during a disaster, why, and what we can do about it. And it comes down to trust.

Episode 7 – The Likelihood (and Impact!) of a Natural Disaster in a Pandemic
July 24, 2020
It’s time to avoid “magical thinking” and referring to things as “on brand” for 2020. In this episode, we delve into the likelihood of an earthquake, hurricane, or other natural disaster of occurring during the COVID19 Pandemic. Spoiler alert — it’s more likely than you probably want to admit!

Episode 6 – What Does It Mean When You Have a Lot Earthquakes
July 17, 2020
From the “increased risk” on the San Andreas Fault to many felt aftershocks in Puerto Rico to Yellowstone’s super-volcano and the mythological Ring of Fire — this episode reveals what you need to know about earthquakes they read or hear about and how they might explain what’s next.

Episode 5 – Science: From Ivory Tower to the Public Square
July 10, 2020
In this episode, Dr. Jones discusses the fundamentals of bringing science from the ivory tower to the public square — to everyone — so you can take control of our chaotic world. She talks about science as facts vs. science as a process, the role of tobacco in our science-trust crisis, and why reality really matters to all of us trying to manage the current crisis and the crises we’ll face in the future.

Episode 4 – Why a Pandemic Spikes (and What You Can Do About It)
July 3, 2020
In this episode, Lucy and John explore the recent spike in COVID19 across the US, what the science tells, and how we, as humans need to find a sense of belonging to survive in the long, slow disaster.

Episode 3 – Why You Feel/Fear What You Do about Disasters
June 29, 2020
In this episode, Dr. Jones explains why you feel what you feel about disasters, looking at the innate human reaction that leads to fear-based on dread and uncertainty.

Episode 2 – The Earthquake Name Game
June 22, 2020
In this episode, Dr. Jones explains how earthquakes get their names, why an aftershock is called an aftershock, and how those names can change…. any why it’s important for you to know these things!

Episode 1 – Surviving the Pandemic with Science
June 14, 2020
Dr. Jones explains how we are doing what we’re doing to be safe during the COVID-19 pandemic.